Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani said Republican nominee Donald Trump will stay in the presidential race despite the release of a video of him making lewd comments about women and suggesting he could grope them at will because of his star status.

Giuliani, on CNN’s “State of the Union,” said “men at times talk like that,” but that Trump would also likely apologize again at Sunday night’s second presidential debate. A number of GOP leaders, including U.S. senators, said they would not be able to support him and some have asked that he step aside.

Giuliani made similar remarks on Fox’s “Fox News Sunday,” CBS’ “Face the Nation,” ABC’s “This Week” and NBC’s “Meet the Press.” Other surrogates, including New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and campaign manager Kellyann Conway, either canceled or became unavailable for the programs.

“He’s going to remain, he’s going to apologize for what he did, he’s going to explain to people that’s not the man he is today,” Giuliani said. “And he is going to count on the fact that the American people are a fair and decent people and someone asks for forgiveness they usually get it.”

He called Trump’s statements “horrible remarks. Remarks you don’t want to hear from anyone, much less a presidential candidate.”

Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo called on Republicans to drop support of Trump after the comment.

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“If you stand with Trump, you stand against women. It’s that simple,” he said at an unrelated news conference about the Long Island Rail Road train derailment in New Hyde Park.

Cuomo said the comments are “disrespectful, sexist, derogatory.”

“For Republican politicians, this is a litmus test, it’s a character question,” he said. “You can’t have it both ways, you can’t say, ‘I support the man but I don’t like the statement.’ Stand up and say, ‘I can’t endorse this.’ Period.”

In Manhattan, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Trump “will have to clean up his mess.”

“The tapes speak for themselves. It turned my stomach,” Schumer said Sunday.

On CNN, Giuliani also said campaigning for president had changed Trump.

“The fact is that men at times talk like that. I’m not justifying it. I believe it was wrong, he believes it was wrong,” he said.

Giuliani also said that while he didn’t expect Trump to hit former President Bill Clinton over allegations that he sexually assaulted and abused women, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton had attacked the victims. “Bill Clinton is not the candidate. But Hillary Clinton was attacking these women,” he said.

Also on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Democratic vice presidential nominee Tim Kaine, the senator from Virginia, ripped Trump’s comments.

“It’s not just words. It’s really talking about a pattern of sexual assault,” he said.

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Kaine also said there’s “a piece of the jigsaw puzzle missing in Trump, where he does not look at women and consider them equal to himself.”

Regarding leaked emails that purported to show what running mate Clinton said in paid speeches to Wall Street groups, Kaine said he didn’t know whether they were real or not.

“I have no way of knowing the accuracy of documents dumped by this hacking organization,” Kaine said. Host Jake Tapper responded, “Well, you could ask her.”

Among the disclosures, in a talk to a Brazilian bank in 2013, she said her “dream” is “a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders.”

With Deon J. Hampton and Maria Alvarez