AP: Affadavit says Clemens told Andy about HGH use
WASHINGTON - Roger Clemens told Yankees teammate Andy
Pettitte nearly 10 years ago that he used human growth hormone,
Pettitte said in a sworn affidavit to Congress.
Pettitte disclosed the conversation to the congressional
committee holding Wednesday's hearing on drug use in baseball, a
person familiar with the affidavit told The Associated Press. The
person spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity Tuesday because
the document had not been made public.
According to the person familiar with the affidavit, who said it
was signed Friday night, Pettitte also said Clemens backtracked
when the subject of HGH came up again in conversation in 2005,
before the same House committee held the first hearing on steroids
in baseball.
Pettitte said in the affidavit that he asked Clemens in 2005
what he would do if asked about performance-enhancing substances,
given his admission years earlier. According to the account told to
the AP, the affidavit said Clemens responded by saying Pettitte
misunderstood the previous exchange in 1999 or 2000 and that, in
fact, Clemens had been talking about HGH use by his wife in the
original conversation.
"We don't know what Andy said," Clemens' lead lawyer, Rusty
Hardin, said in a statement e-mailed to the AP by his spokesman.
"We look forward to hearing tomorrow."
The existence of the affidavit first was reported by The New
York Times. The details of its contents were first reported by the
AP.
The news came on the eve of Clemens' much-anticipated appearance
to testify before the House Committee on Oversight and Government
Reform. His former personal trainer, Brian McNamee, is Wednesday's
other main witness. McNamee told baseball investigator George
Mitchell that he injected Clemens with steroids and HGH at least 16
times from 1998 to 2001. Clemens repeatedly has denied those
allegations, including, he said, under oath in a deposition last
week.
Pettitte also sat for a deposition at the beginning of last
week, and had been scheduled to testify at the hearing. But he
asked the committee to allow him to give an affidavit instead of
appearing at the hearing, the person familiar with the document
said. Pettitte was dropped from the witness list Monday.
McNamee also accused Pettitte of using HGH, and after the
Mitchell Report's release in December, Pettitte acknowledged that
he did.
On Tuesday, Clemens made the rounds on Capitol Hill one last
time, wearing a gray pinstriped suit and squeezing face-to-face
meetings into the busy schedules of committee members. He met with
five lawmakers over a four-hour span Tuesday, on top of the 19 he
saw Thursday and Friday.
"I enjoyed talking with him," said Rep. Diane Watson,
D-Calif., who said the discussion included baseball stories and
personal accounts about the Sept. 11 attacks. "It's always good to
meet the person who is in the spotlight. ... I told him, 'This is
not a trial."'
But it might very well feel like one when Clemens and McNamee
sit at the witness table and -- under oath -- offer what will surely
be contradictory versions as to whether Clemens used steroids and
HGH.
"I couldn't tell you who's telling the truth," Watson said.
Before Pettitte's affidavit came to light, Clemens got some help
in his public relations push from a different ex-teammate Tuesday.
"I have never had a conversation with Clemens in which he
expressed any interest in using steroids or human growth hormone,"
Jose Canseco said in a sworn affidavit, dated Jan. 22, that was
submitted to the committee. "Clemens has never asked me to give
him steroids or human growth hormone, and I have never seen Clemens
use, possess or ask for steroids or human growth hormone."
In his affidavit, Canseco disputes various statements of
McNamee's in the Mitchell Report. The affidavit also says "neither
Senator Mitchell nor anyone working with him" contacted Canseco to
attempt to corroborate things McNamee said.
Canseco's book about steroids in baseball, "Juiced," drew
Congress' attention in 2005, leading to that year's hearing.
The anticipation of Wednesday's hearing rivals -- if not
surpasses -- that of the hubbub before March 17, 2005, when Mark
McGwire, Sammy Sosa and Rafael Palmeiro testified before the same
committee in the same wood-paneled House hearing room. McGwire
avoided answering questions about steroid use that day by
repeatedly saying "I'm not here to talk about the past" -- and his
reputation has shown no signs of recovery.
"I think Roger's fully prepared to testify fully and
truthfully," Hardin said. "He IS here to talk about the past."
McNamee has kept a low profile in the buildup to the hearing. He
gave a closed-door deposition under oath last week, two days after
Clemens did, and has been waiting until the hearing itself to
retell his story.
Clemens didn't have much to say Tuesday as he walked the
hallways from appointment to appointment. He said he was getting a
chance to meet some "interesting people," and he waved
appreciatively when two bystanders yelled: "We love you, Rocket!"
The only scheduled witness besides Clemens and McNamee is
Charles Scheeler, a lawyer who helped produce the Mitchell Report.
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