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Fehr, Bettman back at table Wednesday

Donald Fehr, executive director of the NHL Players'

Donald Fehr, executive director of the NHL Players' Association, talks to reporters after leaving hockey labor negotiations with the NHL in Toronto. (Credit: AP)

Talks resume in Toronto....

Here's some of what Donald Fehr, executive director of the NHL players' association, told reporters atfer meeting with players in Kelowna today, courtesy of the Vancouver Province:

“It’s no secret that there are things that are very important to players and they become more important in certain kinds of systems. What would it take to get players to move off those kind of things would be major concessions on the other side. A concession is when you give up something you have, not when you modify a position about something you don’t have. If somebody said I asked for everything you have and now I’ll only take half of everything you have, that’s not a concession. It’s when I say I’ll give you something.”

“They [owners] have not indicated any substantial willingness to increase the revenue sharing,” added Fehr. “Hopefully that will be an arena where we will be able to find more common ground. If you can find a way to come to a conceptual agreement that we all think that this counts and that doesn’t [hockey related revenue], that’s great. If you can’t, then you have to find a way to come to an agreement that allows you in some fashion to accommodate those disagreements and resolve them if necessary on a case-by-case basis.

“I don’t think that those kinds of issues in the end are likely to get in the way. The gulf that separates us is triggered essentially by the owners’ position that the players have to make enormous concessions — far more than they did last time. And what they did last time was stunningly large. We have to bear that in mind. When you have caps you have planned economies and they generally don’t work very well."

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