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Liuba Grechen Shirley, Peter King have first matchup in Suffolk town hall

The Brightwaters forum on Saturday saw volleys between the candidates for New York's 2nd Congressional District.

Democrat Liuba Grechen Shirley and Republican Rep. Peter

Democrat Liuba Grechen Shirley and Republican Rep. Peter King face off in a town hall in Brightwaters on Saturday. Photo Credit: Johnny Milano

Tensions on the national and local stage boiled over Saturday at a Brightwaters town hall as Republican Rep. Peter King defended his record against Democrat Liuba Grechen Shirley, a progressive activist trying to deny King a 14th term.

A moderator at the forum, sponsored by the Islip Town branch of the NAACP, urged candidates to treat the event as a “job interview” and avoid “cheap shots” and attacks. The event drew about 200 people to the Bay Shore-Brightwaters Public Library.

The two still managed to spar on a range of issues in their first matchup before the Nov. 6 election to represent New York’s 2nd Congressional District, which spans from eastern Nassau County to central and western Suffolk County, including Fire Island communities.

Grechen Shirley, 37, an Amityville activist who has worked with nonprofits, launched her campaign last fall and in June won the primary against the presiding officer of the Suffolk County Legislature. On Saturday, she hit several touchstones of her campaign: "Medicare-for-all," reversing educational inequities and affordable, quality child care. She recalled learning that the waitlist for one day care provider had reached three years and said the lack of paid family leave for parents was a “public health crisis.”

King, 74, of Seaford, highlighted his bipartisan record and role as a powerful advocate for New York’s interests in Congress. He mentioned the praise of Democrats over the years, from Sen. Chuck Schumer and Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo in New York to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi in California. King also defended his record on border security and support for law enforcement officers and gun control measures. Referring to the MS-13 gang, he described some Long Island communities as "killing fields," the same phrase that President Donald Trump used during his visit last year to Brentwood.

The candidates staked sides on other divisive social issues. King condemned the protests of NFL players who kneel during the national anthem, saying “I will not watch NFL games.” He also said he “will not support a Black Lives Matter movement.”

Grechen Shirley had, earlier in the forum, referenced King’s May tweet that asked if the Jets owner would “support all player protests? Would he pay fines of players giving Nazi salutes or spew racism?”

She chided King on the Nazi remark and said people who take a knee “are Americans" and are “protesting the racial discrimination that we have seen in this country.”

King disputed that characterization, saying the kneeling “originated as an attack upon what they said was police abuse and violence, and it’s untrue. It’s a lie. And I will never support a lie.”

The two battled over last year’s Republican tax bill that limited the state and local property tax deduction to $10,000. King said that “New York is a minority in Washington” and the legislation could have been worse. “Mr. King was not able to protect us,” Grechen Shirley countered.

King attacked Democratic lawmakers and candidates who called for abolishing U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. “When we have people out there, because somebody wins a primary in the Bronx, and she says abolish ICE, the people just follow like lemmings along, I will not do that,” he said, referencing Democrat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a progressive who defeated Queens Rep. Joseph Crowley in a June primary.

“There are two parts of ICE,” Grechen Shirley said, explaining “we need to support” the part that aggressively targets gang violence and human and drug traffickers. “There is the other part of ICE that goes after undocumented immigrants and is ripping breast-feeding babies away from their mothers. That part of ICE needs to be reformed.”

Early in the forum, moderator William Moss, president of the NAACP's Islip branch, threatened to call out candidates directly for attacking an opponent.

“It’s me,” Grechen Shirley responded, when an audience member sought clarification, asking whether it was appropriate to clap. “I’m talking about Mr. King’s record, and he [Moss] wants me to stop, but that’s one of the main reasons that I’m running for office.”

“I’m here to discuss my record,” King said. “That was inappropriate what was just said now.”

Moss said, “If a person has to bring somebody down to push themselves up, then maybe they’re not the right person.”

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